Jetting DellOrto Carburetors



Click here for my page verifying the jetting calculator for DellOrto carbs (except SHA).

Below is a screenshot of my spreadsheet for DellOrto carbs. Below this screenshot are the links to the needle and needle jet info that you will need to know such as the inner diameter of the needle jet of your carb. Here's how to use the spreadsheet: Enter data into all the light blue cells of the spreadsheet. If you hover the mouse pointer over a cell with a red corner then a message will pop up telling you about that cell. Here's the sequence to follow:

0) First make sure your real life idle jet is correct. Turn in the slide stop screw till you have a fast idle. Then turn the air screw till you find where it idles the fastest, then readjust the slide stop for the same fast idle. Then turn clockwaise the air screw till the idle speed starts to drop off rapidly and return the screw position to just before that. This should result to be within 1 to 2 turns out. If it is less than 1 turn then you need a bigger idle jet. If it is more than 2 turns then you need a smaller idle jet.

1) Make sure your main jet is correct. The spark plug color should be light chocolate brown or medium grey. Too dark means the jet is too big. For small carbs you may need to lower the needle shroud if one main jet size is too rich and the next smaller size is too lean. In that case put in the rich jet and then lower the shroud .5mm (.02") at a time till the jetting is right. [Plug Reading]

2) Mark your throttle body and throttle grip so you can see when riding what the correct throttle opening is for 1/2 throttle and 3/4 throttle. Ride at a steady speed on a flat road, or on an inclined road if the bike wants to accelerate much at those settings. Then listen to the exhaust note. If it is irregular and/or sputters occassionally then the needle is too rich at that setting. If it runs fine but drops power when you quickly open the throttle then it is too lean there. Something between those two extremes is desirable. You need this info to be able to verify if the programs jetting graph is showing you the same thing. If not then you need to adjust the beginning of the ideal jetting graph (the grey line) so that what it shows is what you experienced. My video about that is on Youtube.


3) Go to the last sheet (click on the velocity tab at the bottom left of the screen) to find out the maximum air velocity to enter at B7. If you aren't sure of the transfers duration then enter 125 for race engines or 120 for street/trail engines. It is best to measure the idle slide height but for "close" results you can just use the calculated value.

3) Go to the last sheet (click on the velocity tab at the bottom left of the screen) to find out the maximum air velocity to enter at B7. If you aren't sure of the transfers duration then enter 125 for race engines or 120 for street/trail engines. It is best to measure the idle slide height but for "close" results you can just use the calculated value on the velocity sheet.


4) At C26 to H26 enter the data for your needle and the program calculates the needle diameter for every 1/8th distance of the carb bore.


5) The needle jet (which Dellorto calls an atomizer) hole diameter is indicated in its ID. Take the first 3 numbers and put a decimal point after the first one to get its diameter in millimeters. If you aren't sure of its ID then you may have to measure the hole size.


6) Enter at C28 the millimeters the slide is open
when the start of the needle taper is at the top
of the narrow section of its jet. You can use the
manual method described on the previous page.
At D28 the slide height is calculated so you can
use that. That depends on the needle specs as
well as the data you enter at A32, B32, A34, B34.
But the most accurate way is measuring it if you
have a digital caliper. One of my videos shows me
measuring it.


7) Adjusting the "ideal" jetting grey graph. Look at the graph results to see where the blue graph is above or below the grey line at full slide opening (far right). If you know the main jet size is clean running with good power and it gives a chocolate brown colored plug then enter the value from I15 into I9. I9 sets the height of the end of the grey line (which represents perfect jetting). In this example .53 needs to be entered at I9. If you know the bikes jetting is a tad rich then subtract .04 from I15 and enter that at I9. Vice reversa if it's running a tad lean.


8) If you want to make any virtual changes to the jetting that affect the beginning of the graph (idle jet, cutaway, air screw, needle width) then you'll first have to set the beginning of the gray graph so we have a reference point of comparison. If your idle air screw is correctly adjusted and you have measured the idle slide height and entered it, then enter the value of C16 at A9 (.9 in this example) and put "Y" at A7.


9) If you want to raise the blue jetting graph from 1/4 to 3/8 slide open then make sure the % at D10 is at least 30%. That % is the needle jet flow area at closed throttle (compared to what it is at WOT) that adds to the fuel flow at all throttle settings. The bigger that percentage, the richer the mixture at the lower throttle positions. If it's less than 30% then use a skinner needle or get a needle jet with a bigger hole. Also less slide cutaway makes the jetting there richer. First make sure the slide cutaway is close to the carb size divided by 10. Additionally you can lower the slide opening at C28 to raise the beginning section of the blue graph to be closer to the ideal grey graph. If that exceeds the physical limitations of the slide and needle clip then you can put home-made washers under the needle clip to reduce the slide opening at taper start. Then measure the new distance and enter that value at C28.



10) Selecting a different needle taper. Notice the blue graph at 1/2 slide opening and if it is above the grey graph by very much then you need a different needle with a smaller taper angle. If the blue graph is below the grey one then the needle needs a bigger taper angle.


Multi-tapered needles can be good like this 1.1*/3* one, or they can be terrible like this 2*/4* one.
It's just such a huge advantage to test them virtually using this software first.


11) Re-record this spreadsheet with all of your data in it. For example, if saving data for a YZ250 then save it as JettingCalcYZ250.xlsm

DellOrto Carburetor Jetting Calculator



DellOrto
DellOrto calls their needle jet an 'atomizer' and you need to make sure your DellOrto carb has a 2 stroke atomizer because the 4 stroke atomizers have more air holes in their sides which changes the flow which makes my calculator unsuitable for selecting a good needle. (This holds true for all carburetors.) 2 stroke atomizers are labeled AQ, AU, AV, AS, AB, AF, AR. The hole diameter is known by dividing the atomizer # by 100. This site lists the atomizers and their carburetors. Treatland sells genuine Dellorto jets.

Here's what DellOrto carbs are often equiped with.
To get the needle jet (atomizer) diameter just divide its number by 100. So the 209GA atomizer has an inner hole diameter of 2.09mm.



Following is the Dell'Orto data on needles for carbs PHBN, PHBG, PHBL, PHBH, PHBE.



 



K needles are for DellOrto PHBE carburetors (30-38mm):


The commas represent decimal points in tthe chart below.
It looks like some needles have 3 tapers but actually the last one is just a straight section.

Here's more Dellorto needle charts that may be of use to you:







If you have any questions then just email me at 19jaguar75@gmail.com


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